You don’t get better than H2O live as I found out at the underworld in London June '08, I have seen so many amazing bands over the years but Toby’s energy and the music was incredible to experience and I for one embraced them back to the scene with open arms when I first learnt of there new album ‘Nothing To Prove’ a band like that needs to be around, its crucial that bands like H2O are here to inspire us all and remind us truly the reasons why we go to shows in the first place. I’ve always wanted to interview Toby aside from being the front man for one of my favourite bands he’s also known for his straight edge ethics one of the original’s, the band made up by Rusty and Todd (Toby’s brother) on guitar, Adam on bass and Todd on drums are a force to be reckoned with, they maybe by there own admissions getting on but there legacy is untouchable!

If you could start by telling us about H2O’s humble beginnings it all started while you were roady-ing for Sick Of It All right? What was the initial response to the band and when did it all start getting serious for you?
Oh Jesus yeah man that story, I was a roadie for sick of it all for a couple of years and then I started making what was a joke into a real band. You know the history right? (Yeah) That’s it man, made a demo, made a seven inch and then went on tour, came over here (Europe) in ’94 with SOIA and CIV for six weeks had like five songs and one t-shirt design, came home and actually started doing it for real.

Were you surprised at the initial response that you got? 
The initial response in Europe was horrible (Adam laughs) they were staring at me and shit, they didn’t know who the fuck we were. In the U.S. it was good, people were shocked because of the people I hung out with, the sound of New York hardcore and when we came out we were melodic and at that time nobody was really doing melodic so people were like what the fuck? So definitely people were shocked on that but once we started recording a demo and seven inch and then the first album, people got it and it was officially a band.

Did it seem like it was getting pretty serious quite quickly for you?
I was like yeah lets do this, it’s fun, whatever, do a band, it was a joke. We had five or six songs went on tour with SOIA & CIV our friends then we got back to the states and we really started looking for a record deal, touring and once we got the line up

Where did you and your brother grow up? (Todd plays guitar)
We were born in Massachusetts, we moved to Rhode Island then my mum got a job as a manager of an apartment complex in Maryland near D.C. so we moved there, we were there for three or four years and then we moved to New York in 1988 by myself, went on tour with Timmy Chunks from Token Entry

At what age did you discover skateboarding because that’s always been something that you’ve had a passion for?
Started skating when I was 12 years old, 82/83 maybe even before that, got into Thrasher and being a freestyle kid, started skating ramps with a freestyle board. I actually got in Thrasher in 1983 I got second place in a contest I have it still, started skating ramps and shit. I still skate today, we played in Fryeburg or something I saw some kids with a board and there was a ramp, I love skating man. It’s a different high you get from skateboarding to being in a band for sure.

Was it through skateboarding that you discovered bands like Minor Threat? Black Flag?
Yeah probably, I was a skater first started listening to skate rock tapes, youth brigade, heard minor threat first, but the west coast shit I heard through skateboarding.

How long have you been involved in the scene now?
Involved, I'm not really involved in a certain scene but as involved in the music shit I've been going to shows since ’82, my brothers took me to shows when I was a little kid I was 12 / 13

Have you just got the one brother?
My older brother Tracy took me to my first show descendants and Dead Kennedy’s all that shit. So I got to go to shows in Rhode Island where the scene was great, Washington D.C. and then New York

What was it like seeing all of those bands at that early stage? And also looking back now (at how those bands are revered)
Its cool man, I saw like Fugazi’s fifth show they handed out lyric sheets, things like that, saw like Embrace his other band (Ian Mackaye) people throwing flowers on stage, saw like
Adam- Black Flag?
Nah I didn’t my brother saw Black Flag, I saw Dag Nasty

What were shows like back then compared to how they are now?
People weren’t so worried about there dance style or what they looked like they just went to the show and if you wanted to fall around like a chicken, if that’s how the music made you feel, I think people now are worried about if there doing the right thing or if they look hardcore

If they’re singing the right parts to the songs
Yeah
Lets not even start on that one
(Laughter)
Was there like an excitement about what was happening at that time? Or were you just there…
You definitely looked forward to shows, every Sunday matinee or seeing a friends band play, you got excited about that but you didn’t think it was going to be some extraordinary time where people were going to say “wow man ‘88” youth crew shit I guess and now looking back on ’88-89 youth crew it was fucking amazing, looking back on those times. I remember going to Youth Of Today’s practise after Ray Cappo turned Krishna when the “were not in this alone” album came out, Cappo was like standing upside down doing this yoga type stuff just crazy being a part of that, seeing that before exploded into what it exploded into you know what I'm saying? I worked at a studio Jackson heights queens, this place where Gorilla Biscuits and Bad Trip had their rehearsal. So I was the guy that was setting up for their rehearsals. I was living at the Gorilla Biscuit house which was like Me, Civ, Walter & Alex Cage from quicksand, in the Jackson Heights, Queens, we lived next to a burger king. So back then people like you, and younger people who want to know about that time, yea it’s a time that was amazing and I look at those as my glory days, something that was really special you know what I’m saying? Ill never get that again with music, or hardcore unfortunately because were older now people do different things. So now kids are trying to do this re-hash of the old-school youth crew 88, all that shit and we lived that with the fucking revelation shirts and there trying to re-live a time that they weren’t a part which is cool and it gives respect to that but I think people can hopefully look back on the mid-nineties or some of the early 2000’s as there time in hardcore.

I got into hardcore when I was 16/17 99, my first show was a Shutdown show and 25 Ta Life…lost where I am…how did people generally react to the straight edge concept at that time as well?
Those people that are like my friends now were like “fuck that” it was so elitist, so militant and better that you crew, it was so like you know
Because it caused a rift…
Yeah thinking back now, I kind of wore this kind of wardrobe you only had canvas Vans, tight beads, fucking Revelation shirts cut the sleeve right here and kind of roll the sleeve up a little bit (both Toby and Adam say at the same time “Porcell still do’s that”) canvas belt, it wasn’t fashionable, it was kind of thrown together but that was kind of the youth crew, greased hair, the fucking swatch watch, fucking little militant army

Do you still have your Swatch watch?
Fuck yeah, I had a couple of those things man, I wish I still had one. And there were other people that were you got separatism at the shows, they’d separate the straight edge and the punk, they were like “fuck those militant straight edge kids” definitely a vibe that people didn’t um get scared by it by there were like these dudes have a message, vegetarian, we took it to a whole different level you know what I mean? As a posed to being drunk and punk rock, and going to shows. So people definitely saw us as some kind of elitist kind of shit as well. It was to an extent this elitist, it wasn’t militant like Vegan Reich shit or like how Earth Crisis took it to a level that was more like “this is who we are, fuck you, were straight edge” like “if your not straight edge then fuck you” but some people took it that way because it was so new.

Looking back now straight edge was like the most positive part the of the 80’s, of the time, after Minor Threat, it was so positive

As well compared to how it is today there were more drugs at shows... 
A lot of my friends do drugs, drugs have been a big part of hardcore as much as straight edge, some of my band, some of my friends do drugs it’s a part of like, some people do drugs and some people don’t. Murphy’s Law are a hardcore band and they’re all about beer you know, I was never that one that was so militant about it.

Who were your favourite bands from those early days to watch live?
Youth Of Today, there are like two things, if I name a load of bands it sounds like I’m dissing, but I didn’t really like anybody else man, GB, YOT, I liked Instead, I liked Uniform Choice from the West Coast, straight edge bands Minor Threat obviously, Underdog they were more like straight edge, skater, reggae but being straight edge bands, fuck Timmy Chunks was straight edge for many years until Good Entry you know? Youth of Today and Gorilla Biscuits. I sang back ups on GB “Start Today” I sang on the whole entire album, that’s crazy to me, I’m reminded how much that record has become part of the hardcore scene, that I’m third person thanked on that, those guys are my hommies, I sang on that album and it had such a huge effect on hardcore its amazing.

It still do’s
It’s an amazing album man. I think that Ian Mackaye made me realise that I was a punk rock skater kid, my brothers did drugs and when I heard Minor Threat this guy was saying like you don’t have to do that so I was like fuck this is awesome I’m a punk rock skater kid and this band is singing about shit I feel like I’m a nerd for not doing and that just said it for me, I heard that and the power of Minor Threat and I’ve never tried anything my whole life. Then Youth Of Today and Gorilla Biscuits they inspired me to become vegetarian I haven’t eaten meat, this year it’ll be twenty years, in ’88 I stopped. I did vegan for like nine years. So those two bands definitely inspired my eating habits, which now inspired my son, not by choice, my son’s five but I’ve been raise him as vegetarian (laughing) music’s really, it’s crazy man I always say hardcore ruined my life as a joke but it really didn’t hardcore, the way I life.

The personal nature of your songs is reflected not only in your lyrics but through your art work and the accessibility of it all and the embodiment of that hardcore spirit is something that drew me into the scene, going to shows and hanging out with like minded people, to me its not just a form of music but a lifestyle. Have you ever known a point in your life where that enthusiasm for hardcore faded or has it been a constant in your life like your straight edge ethics?
It never faded man, it’s like all over my body man, I have like thirty-five hardcore band tattoos, it’s my life man, I can’t escape it (laughing)

Show me man (Toby) points to his leg’s, which offer a who’s who of hardcore band tattoos
Fucking Gorilla Biscuits, Agnostic Front, Murphy’s Law, Killing Time, Madball, Warzone. The only GB Gorilla Civ’s ever done on anybody. Fucking Skarhead, Dag Nasty, Minot Threat, Kill Your Idols, like uh six Sick Of It All tattoos haha I’m fucked haha. So it’s like it is my life, it’s weird because I did this band, we toured for ten years that was my life, I had no job, that’s how we survived. I had a kid, you get back to reality, you come off of tour and I went and tried to get a job at UPS and they hired me with a neck tattoo which is crazy because obviously neck tattoos and hands tattoos are job stoppers but now every kid and there fucking mum is getting their throats done, sleeves and hands done which is crazy & like I was saying times have changed and tattoos are more accepted but I’m covered in tat’s what am I going to fucking do and luckily I don’t really want to work at UPS but I just wanted to see like the real world and what I could do with the way I’ve fucked myself up, but yeah man and now here I am doing a H2O album

I just noticed a Yankee’s tattoo on Toby’s neck behind his right ear “fuck yeah” and then I point to my sock’s (just happened to have Yankee’s socks on)
But then I got all domestic, I got a house, got a regular type job shit, and then somehow someway H2O have got an album again, it’s in my blood, I’ve been going to shows since ’82-83’, been a skater my whole life, I just which there was like a retirement plan for people like fucking Agnostic Front and the Bad Brains bands who fucking changed our lives, those guys there the ones who should have been like the Rolling Stones you know what I’m saying? The Ramone’s are dead the Rolling Stones are alive it’s crazy man.

Do you ever sit down and think about how the hardcore scene has grown and progressed over the years? How do’s the modern hardcore scene compare?
The thing is my hardcore scene is in my house, it’s me, my wife and kid, it’s whatever record were listening to or my son playing drums, I haven’t been a part of the hardcore scene for years, I moved to California, seven years ago and CBGB’s is gone so New York now is just a weird place for shows a band could play a bigger venue, they could play in Queens or uh Long Island the scene changing there’s definitely a lot of bands who I don’t consider hardcore that call themselves hardcore, this metalcore, the screamo, all this shit, which I have no problem with, things change and things evolve there genres and there’s names for everything but as far as the hardcore music evolving I think uh that Johnny Cash was hardcore first of all, I think that like it was more lyrics and shit for me, a way of life. Some people consider Hatebreed a metal band but I’d consider them a hardcore band because Jamey Jasta’s a hardcore kid, he grew up and pretty much doing his fucking label, his zine and he took it to a more metal dimension of hardcore but hardcores a part of his lifestyle some other bands are just straight up I don’t know what the hell there doing but there like yeah were hardcore and I’m like yeah that’s cool, I don’t know what there singing about, what there screaming about, I’m a fucking 38 year old man what the fuck do I know hardcore was in ’88 with like GB and Agnostic Front to me so I can’t judge them, shit evolves and that word hardcore gets thrown around a lot. I don’t know what it is anymore, I definitely know it’s a lifestyle, that we always lived, it’s definitely a kind of music we play if you want to call it that. Some people would say were too melodic, or were too poppy, but bands like GB had melody, Token Entry had Melody, Underdog had melody and Murphy’s Law had melody, tons of bands, seven seconds one of my all time favourite bands who changed my life. That’s hardcore, that’s hardcore to me you know? I would say that how it evolved I don’t know, I just know that we just made a record, I think it’s a hardcore record, H2O hardcore record (everyone laughs) I’m no one to judge what’s hardcore and what’s not as far as the scene evolved, I don’t know I’m a dad, I don’t really go to shows

Rusty - It started here and it’s definitely moved over here (gesturing with his hands) from when it started but that’s the nature of punk

So tell me about S.E.O.G. (this is where I make a complete dick of myself I’m so crap with anagrams) it took me ages to work out that it stands for straight edge old guy right?
Yeah it can be straight edge old guy
Rusty- or straight edge original gangster (laughing again more so at me haha)
Toby – O.G. original gangster / original…for me it’s straight edge old guy (in the song still here off of nothing to prove Civ who also sings on the track talks about how he loves to see straight edge old guys still going to shows) straight edge original guys it doesn’t really matter. So you can take it any way that you want, people ask me all the time do’s it mean this or do’s it mean that all the time (Toby started S.E.O.G. clothing a few years back)
When did you start making shirts?
Couple of years ago I was just doing it for fun and now I do them out of my house, me and my wife we’ve designed them all ourselves, sell them out the house, using Paypal, I really don’t push it too hard. I’m surprised Starbucks hasn’t caught me yet (laughs)
Rusty – eventually

What do’s straight edge mean to you then?
Toby – straight edge? I mean I was straight edge before I even knew what straight edge was
Rusty – before you were born!
Toby – before even Minor Threat I didn’t do anything it’s because my brothers would get drunk and give me wedges, lock me in my room, fucking abuse me mentally that I didn’t want to fuck with drugs you know what I’m saying? And then I heard Minor Threat after I’d heard like the Decendent’s and Dead Kennedy’s and all that shit and thought oh shit this is great this is hardcore punk that I love and I don’t have to do that, I thought fuck it that’s me and I’ve never tried anything. It’s my whole life, I don’t think about it just like I wouldn’t think I’m gonna go fuck a dude in the ass, just like I would never smoke a joint, I don’t think about it
Adam – you don’t think you’d ever what?
Toby – fuck you in the ass
Adam – I thought that’s what you said, really? (mock surprise) WOW
Toby- Aw don’t be sad…you probably shouldn’t put that…my point is I clean my teeth everyday, I eat food every day, I don’t think oh my god I’m straight edge today. The reason still here is on the album is because I never had a straight edge song in this band and here today gone tomorrow on the first album is about all the bands that fell off and preached the shit. So I was like I’m straight edge, I’m 38 nobody talks about it anymore its kind of my straight edge pride song and none of these guys are straight edge but thank you for letting me do a song like that.
Rusty – its like why’s he wasting two minutes of our album on this (everyone bursts into laughter)
Adam – its straight edge propaganda
Rusty – its just politics
Toby – it’s not really a political song, you know what I’m saying
Me Yeah I know exactly
Toby – Straight edge is for life, my son is straight edge, not by choice but he’s straight edge, he’ll probably be fucking a gay politician when he’s thirteen making millions of dollars, smoking drinking
Rusty – he’s going to be Einstein
Toby – he wants to be

Now that you’re a father do you think it’s a good state of mind to have being drug free, taking everything as it comes and having something that say your boy can look up to? I have a young nephew who seems to look up to me!
To be a dad and be drug free, fuck yeah! Imagine how many kids have dads that are fucking junkies, alcoholics who abuse them I would say he should be stoked that I don’t do that shit, I’m definitely a psycho, a.d.d., o.c.d., hyperactive, compulsive person but uh I hope I’m a good role modal.
My wife’s not straight edge so it’s a good balance. Right now he’s vegetarian, he’s straight edge, he listens to Madball, he plays drums and he’s my robot I tell him what to do um its good.

I read that your bassist Adam commented on the fact that when you started writing the lyrics for the new album you just kept writing and writing, did you find the process came to you?
No it didn’t I was really scared, the last one I did was Hazen St. and that was a whole different writing process, this album came and the album was getting done really fast, I had nothing written and I was thinking what am I going to do, I started writing down topics
Rusty – we had a studio booked
Toby – I just started writing in the studio, just random topics and every time we recorded a song, I ripped up the lyrics and threw them in the trash, I couldn’t look at them anymore, so every song id get rid of the lyrics so when it was time to write them out for the label and I didn’t remember the lyrics and shit, I listened to the songs again, but it was almost cleansing, I’m a dad now, it’s my first h2o album as a dad, I go into the studio, I come home and be a dad without being stressed or worrying about writing those two different dimensions of being a dad and being a singer or whatever. So that was the whole process and I’m proud of everything on the album 100%, lyrically, musically, I’m psyched we banged it out in 3 ½ weeks, its getting the best response we didn’t think we’d get. It’s doing really good in the states and we haven’t even toured there yet. We come home for about a week and then go on tour with Rancid for like six shows and then go to Europe again, then we come home, then go to Japan then we do a five week tour of the u.s. which we haven’t done yet so I’m psyched. Then we go to Australia. We haven’t put a record out in seven years so we’ve got a lot of work to do.

Was it hard bearing your heart in such a personal way especially for arguably your most emotional song…
Sunday?
Yeah
People try to psycho analyse me on that song in the U.S. but I didn’t think about it like that I just wrote the song. But when I heard it back and I almost started crying listening to it now I’m getting emo thinking about it, and then I thought shit I’m going to have to perform this song and it’s a pretty deep song but I didn’t realise until I heard it back. Then other people started hearing it and first time I played it live my friends wife was crying on stage, Chris Wrenn’s wife, it’s about my dad dying and my son being born. I did some research on it my dad died on a Sunday, the day my wife told me she was pregnant was a Sunday and the day my son, Max was born was a Sunday so that’s uh how that came out, were actually going to play it tonight.

Is a release for you speaking so honestly through your lyrics…
Yeah this whole album is a release for me, playing these songs makes me feel like (I think Toby was going to say young but went of on a tangent) I was 26, dude we started this band late, Freddy Madball's been on tour since he was nine years old. So were still young (as a band).
Rusty- all these kids that are in bands and are like uh my bands breaking up and were like how old are you and there like 21…you got another 40 years asshole

One of your songs “heart on my sleeve” deals in particular with being judged for your appearance and how people have misconceptions about kids with tattoos that obviously an issue that bother you a great deal, have you had a lot of personal experiences where people have looked at you and judged you without getting to know who you really are?
I’ve wanted to write a song like that for years dude, writing on a subway in Manhattan with a wifebeater on fucking old people not wanting to sit next to me, people pulling there kids away from me I’m like the most clean living, healthy non-criminal person, although sometimes I’d be on the train with some of my thug friends so maybe that was the reason but if I was by myself the same shit would happen to me so your being judged by the way you look. I’ve got end racism on my back, we were somewhere on tour, skinheads were all on the news and the negativity of the shaved head and somebody tried fucking with me and I remember showing them the end racism tattoo on my back and it pretty much saved my life, made me realise that all dudes with shaved heads and tattoos were white power.
Rusty – meanwhile catholic priests have been molesting little kids but people aren’t afraid to let their kids near him
Toby – Nowadays it’s cool not to have tattoo’s, now tattoo’s are everywhere, neck & hand tattoos back then I saw the crow-mags and I was like oh shit neck tattoo back then it was like scary, but now it doesn’t even matter dude.
Rusty- I remember my sister had a rose tattoo on her arm and her chest and Toby was like man she’s like a biker chick or something (laughter)
Adam – No tattoo’s is just the new tattoo’s people are like (mock gangster accent) “aw shit you got no tattoo’s you are crazy” (everyone burst’s into laughter) “hardcore maniac”

Your all approaching middle age now in a scene where very few bands stick around longer than a few years what do you think are the secrets to h2os success?
Well now you know my secret, I started at 26. I’m old but I started late, it’s not like we’ve been doing this for 20 years the bands been together for 13 years, this band kind of saved our lives in some respect.

What did you do before the band?
Well I was a roadie for six years. Working random jobs working at roadrunner records, I was a shoe salesman’s and shit but I got to see the world early with sick of it all we were like the first New York hardcore band to go to Japan in like ’91. One of the first tours was actually sick of it all, agnostic front, zero tolerance I think, they took us to Canada. I did road trips with Gorilla Biscuits, killing time, token entry, east coats and shit. So hardcore ruined my life and saved my life.

As time go's by do’s the idea of touring get harder?
I hate it! I’ll be straight up honest I hate Europe straight up, I love the shows, I hate the food, the no sleep, I hate the smoking, I hate sometimes the language barrier that comes off really rude and kind of condescending towards Americans…I love the shows, but if I didn’t have to come back here again I wouldn’t care, it’s not a diss to the fans that’s myself being away from my family. It’s harder now because I toured with my wife before, she used to do our merch, so I was just chilling now I have my wife and kid back home, if I come here for two weeks that’s great. I’m comfortable with being a domestic dad at home, playing shows here and there, I have my food, I know when I work out I know when I sleep do you know what I’m saying?

You’ve got your routine?
Yeah, I’m organised, on tour your schedule’s fucked your scrambling to get vegetarian food at like one in the morning I don’t need to do that, I’ve paid my dues. I’ve tried to come here for fun, with the new album and it’s fun but the other 23 hours are kind of brutal sometimes. In the u.s. it’s easy, Taco Bell, food fuck it here shit shuts down in towns, if I was single I’d love it, I’d come here for six weeks I wouldn’t give a fuck, but now I have other things on my mind. Not just the band. We did this for ten years. I don’t hate Europe the continent I love seeing things, but I’ve seen them 100 times you know? This trip Zurich was amazing, England was great, fucking Spain was amazing, I don’t want to diss anybody because the shows were great but when people like myself come to your country and smoking hasn’t been banned in your club that’s not your fault that’s just the way the rules are, which is hard when you step into a wall of cigarettes smoke, I think people get generally offended when you say would you mind not smoking, you’re the weirdo for not smoking because everyone smokes (European mainland) it’s almost like a secret like people didn’t tell nobody over here that you could die from it yet. I appreciate that nobody forgot about us, it’s been seven years since our last record, three years since the last tour, we barely come were and were very blessed to be able to tour here that’s amazing, but everything else surrounding that it’s hard.

What do you do to keep occupied on the road?
This is where we’ve fucked up, weve never toured Europe in a van ever, we made a stupid decision to go in a van which is our fault it was a cash over comfort tour, that was our choice, so never again. Ina bus you sleep all day, you wake up sound check and your fully energised. In a van it’s different man you can sleep on the ferry but you have to wake at 2 in the morning to get up and drive off the ferry, it’s a different living condition. Those 45 minutes are why we are here, I’ve got forty million pictures of the coliseum, tried every kind of chocolate, shat in every weird shithole in the floor. Were grown ass men.
Rusty – This whole tour is built on almost like a military get in get out
Toby – its some war shit for us, were going to go into the trenches were going to get a van, play 24 shows, band them out its going to be great, that’s it. Warrior shit but these warriors are getting defeated bro (laughter) we’ve got three more shows and ill tell you what tonight will be the best show of the tour I’m telling you that right now, we’ve been looking forward to it

Funniest moments on the tour?
Rusty - Probably when Toby asked our drummer if he could play drums playing down. I think some of the funniest moments are when people don’t know the words and they sing. We had our merch guy singing Freddy Madball’s part and he did such a bad job that now every night we try and get him to do it again, but he get’s really good at hiding when that part comes up. Pissing off our tour manager, he never works, so the other day we needed air in the tires so I got my camera out to get an actual picture of our tour manager working is as elusive as trying to get a picture of a wombat in daylight so we dubbed him the elusive wombat when it comes to working.

What still excites you about hardcore that hasn’t changed for you since your first show?
Rusty - The crowd and the energy, everything else along the way like the close mindedness sucks and that’s one thing that makes you almost embarrassed to be a part of the scene, when we started doing hardcore punk its was diverse and political and socially driven, like a big family and people started categorising it, putting it into little boxes, compartmentalising and in theory it fucking sucks but when you get up on stage you’re a big happy family and you don’t think about what’s going on on the street, its always good.

What have been the most memorable events in your life, what lessons have you learnt along the way and what hopes do you have for the future?
Rusty - All the people that propose on stage for weddings is memorable, when a guy took his fake leg off and dove into the crowd
Toby – He drank water out of it, that was cool
Rusty – Surviving the hurricane, with Murphy’s Law in ’96, we were stuck in North Carolina and we were in the venue and the lights went off and they came back on, we loaded everything into the van and started driving, we tried to outrun it and as we were trying to outrun it trees were falling down on the highway blocking the way and we were driving around them. Murphy’s Law got stuck in the middle of the highway and we had to jump out and push them out of the mud van and trailer.
Adam – Just playing with bands that you love and admire, getting a shout out from the Bad Brains doesn’t get any better than that!

Any last words?
Were psyched were playing London tonight we haven’t played here in a long time, we’ve looked forward to the show and coming to the UK, its been a long time since we’ve had a record or been playing and we appreciate the support!